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Not a food thread, More about Global Warming
There was an interesting article in The NY Times yesterday that I didn't post for fear of inflaming Nate to the point of madness.
But it's a very interesting article about the effects of agriculture and ranching on global warming. It has interesting tidbits about about turning pig poop into electricity so there's even something in it for morey!
Read here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/science/earth/04meat.html?hp
Another reason to eat less meat, Bug:
“It’s an area that’s been largely overlooked,” said Dr. Rajendra Pachauri, head of the Nobel Prize-winning United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. He says people should eat less meat to control their carbon footprints. “We haven’t come to grips with agricultural emissions.”
“I’m not sure that the system we have for livestock can be sustainable,” said Dr. Pachauri of the United Nations. A sober scientist, he suggests that “the most attractive” near-term solution is for everyone simply to “reduce meat consumption,” a change he says would have more effect than switching to a hybrid car.
(Why they refer to him as a sober scientist is odd.)
I find if I can appreciate the little things then when something big happens it knocks me on my ass. -stonecoyote
We have any Swedes here?
Other proposals include everything from persuading consumers to eat less meat to slapping a “sin tax” on pork and beef. Next year, Sweden will start labeling food products so that shoppers can look at how much emission can be attributed to serving steak compared with, say, chicken or turkey.
I find if I can appreciate the little things then when something big happens it knocks me on my ass. -stonecoyote
I like all my science to come from drunk and/or stoned scientists.
Oh, I thought all your science came from the bible!
;)
I find if I can appreciate the little things then when something big happens it knocks me on my ass. -stonecoyote
The last couple of times people have gotten all up in my face about scientifically proving the existence of God, I have said, "I don't believe in science." It does NOT go over well.
[Ironman] 4:13 pm: SHUUT UP you non jewish jane!
The last couple of times people have gotten all up in my face about scientifically proving the existence of God, I have said, "I don't believe in science." It does NOT go over well.
But it shuts them up, no?
I find if I can appreciate the little things then when something big happens it knocks me on my ass. -stonecoyote
No, because you can't do that on facebook. I'd have to go to Minnesota and start smacking some bitches.
That is a problem. Facebook should have smacks just like they have hugs.
I find if I can appreciate the little things then when something big happens it knocks me on my ass. -stonecoyote
We have any Swedes here?
Next year, Sweden will start labeling food products so that shoppers can look at how much emission can be attributed to serving steak compared with, say, chicken or turkey.
That reminds me of the new law in New York City, which makes the food chains label the amount of calories that are in each of the dishes. I'm all for helping the consumer making more educated choices, and helping to nudge them into the right direction. It's unfortunate that the government has to step in a make these places do that, but unfortunately I think it's too idealistic to think that corporations will do it on their own, and also too idealistic to think consumers will demand they do. Sometimes government intervention is good, and often good dealing with corporations.
Laura Collins, are you out there?
Some corporations will do it on their own. This company for example: Bon Appetit Management Company.
They are committed to reducing carbon emissions and it's not just talk.
From this article: http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/green/articles/2008/04/16/reducing_foods...
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...beginning on Earth Day next Tuesday, Bon Appetit Management Company, a national food service contractor that serves 80 million meals a year, will reduce its carbon emissions by 25 percent.It will cut beef and cheese purchases by at least 25 percent and commit to buying only those meats raised in North America; it will stop purchasing any air freighted seafood and buy only local or frozen-at-sea fish; push for composting and less food waste; and stop using any imported water. Ciao San Pellegrino.
Bon Appetit serves four local locations, including the kitchens of MIT and Lesley University in Cambridge, Emmanuel College in Boston, and Cisco Systems in Boxborough. A few years ago, Bon Appetit made a push to increase its purchases of food from within 150 miles of each kitchen by 25 percent and has since spent $55 million locally. But local does not always equal low carbon, and the push is on again.
I know that both Yahoo and Google also use Bon Appetit for all their food services.
I find if I can appreciate the little things then when something big happens it knocks me on my ass. -stonecoyote
...a change he says would have more effect than switching to a hybrid car.
Some scientific people estimate that most hybrid cars will be worse for the environment because of the battery used to keep them afloat. They calculate some mileage cutoff where it makes it worth being a hybrid, and it wasn't too high up there, but more than most ppl get out of their car, I think like 175,000 miles.
But yeah, fuel efficient smaller cars aren't too much worse on gas than hybrids anyways.
If it's not consensual, it's not moral. Ever.
Well, I personally am a huge advocate of public transportation and improving it so people are less dependent on cars and have more time to read on trains. ;)
I find if I can appreciate the little things then when something big happens it knocks me on my ass. -stonecoyote
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