Who's Gonna Win the Nobel Lit Prize?

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As long as it's not Don Delillo, I'm happy.
Pynchon and Kundera would be my two top choices, followed by Antonio Lobo Antunes.
In all likelihood, if it's an American author, it'll be someone like Philip Roth, which is fine by me.



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I looked at one of Kundera's book, my aunt had it in Ireland, it was something about the lightness of being or some bollocks. I decided against picking it up. Also, I think DeLillo should win the Nobel Prize being that I managed to finish Underworld eventually, whereas V is still unfinished.



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Kundera is great. I think you'd like him, Alex. But then again you never finished Lanark, so I may be totally wrong.



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THE UNBEARABLE LIGHTNESS OF BEING is a great novel. you shouldve picked it up.

i think an american may have trouble getting it according to this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/oct/01/us.literature.insular.nobel

though, i hope thats not the case.

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Kundera is great. I think you'd like him, Alex. But then again you never finished Lanark, so I may be totally wrong.

I'll get back into it eventually. I liked what I read, a lot. I can't even remember why I didn't finish it.



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I'm pulling for Pynchon (not literally, mind you)! Philip Roth would be cool too.

I think Kundera should get a mention, but something about him irritates me. But people all over the world love him, so in the final analysis a little pain in my ass matters little.



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Pynchon's my fave candidate but I doubt he'll win. You either love or hate him and the Swedes seem to be of the latter school.



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God you people are insufferable. Academia has poisoned art!



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You don't know what art is. You're not an academic!



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You don't know what academia is. You're not an artist!



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Although I've never read Murakami, I don't mind seeing his name on the list of potential winners because he's a Nipponese samurai soldier.



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Nipponese samurai soldier.

id vote for anyone with those credentials

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Murakami seems like the type who would win a Nobel Prize. I don't know why.

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Because he's full of ideals and crap?

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it won't be an american. it's gonna be someone from somewhere authoritarian and wartorn and rife with danger and racial factions. probably some paki or some iraqui or something. john updike? philip roth? joyce carol oates? they can all get bent...

pfft the swedes...what do they even know?? the swedes gave us strindberg. what do they know? they like small dark oppressive little novels where people get heavy things dropped on them.

i say let the jews give out the nobel prize. pound for pound they have better writers.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_laureates_by_country

The US has 304 Laureates in every category. The next highest are the UK with 114 and Germany with 104.

Given the US's much larger size, I guess that's fair. Also I laugh at India, who's had 7, and two of them were not even Indian (Mother Theresa and Kipling.)

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I lost major respect for the Nobel Prize when they gave it to Al Gore for Peace.

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I lost major respect for the Nobel Prize when they gave it to Al Gore for Peace.

that and when i found out they give it out every year. i used to think it was only given out for notable achievements. chemistry and physics probably have a legitimate candidate every year, but i think peace and literature should be more selective.

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I once argued with a girl who was convinced there was a Nobel Prize for Philosophy.



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Well in a perfect world philosophy would be valued more. I admire her sentiment at the very least.

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Philosophy is the bastard hate-child of fascism and utilitarianism.



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I think most awards should be given out when needed and not on an annual basis. Especially employee of the month.

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usually its some foreign guy with a really hard name to pronounce that writes unbearably long and boring psuedophilosophical novels about poor spanish farmers or obscure civil wars in ever obscurer countries nobody really cares about.

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yes usually it's won by someone called ramalalama ricky manoush, from ramul pindi. and like at night the ramul pindi authorities call and harrass him, and he keeps getting mysterious pizza deliveries....so he writes a poem in protest called "savage accusations"

...he's pretty much a shoe-in.

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Re: Who's Gonna Win the Nobel Lit Prize?

Some French Guy won!



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Isn't the Nobel thing just a notch up on the credibility scale than the MTV movie awards?

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Kate was right about the ridiculously long name, though...

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To their credit, there is a lot less Jimmy Fallon.



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I'm really hoping that Pynchon's novel coming out next year just blows the fucking hinges off the literary establishment and leaves critics, publishers, and academics alike (myself included) scratching their heads and thinking, what the fuck was it we thought literature was before this? So yeah, okay, don't give it to him this year, but how 'bout next, or at least before he dies?



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Last month, Mr. Engdahl provoked a wave of indignation when he criticized American writers as “too isolated, too insular†and “too sensitive to trends in their own mass culture.†Europe, he declared, is “the center of the literary world.†No American has won the Nobel literature prize since Toni Morrison did in 1993.

We are not a part of the ongoing global dialogue, and by global i mean EUROPEAN.

Pfft....those pretentious fucks.

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Europe is the center of the literary world?? Those asshats...they're just bitter because our country is almost as big as their entire continent.

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Really, who gives a fuck about some old tits in Sweden?
There hasn't been a writer who deserved a world-wide-recognition-prize, which I suppose is what this Nobel Prize is meant to be, who has actually won one since 1982. The rest of them are, as has been said, minority writers, and I think the money would be far better used broken down into 100 grants, rather than lumping a million towards one writer who's only really read by academics. Art, like every experience, is for life, not for school.



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so am i reading that right. that they don't even give the award for something the guy has published in the last year and it's just sort of one of those "whole body of work" type things? What a crock of poop. if that's what they go by why not just give it to shakespeare every single year.

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Because Shakespeare never wrote anything, duh.



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Because of the following, I think I deserve the Nobel Prize.

let us go then, (paperback) eliot in hand
down to st dominici's tavern
where if you help me tempt the women
i shall perform for you troubador or not
(hendrick hofgen played mephisto i remember)
we will wander in the gardens
planting flowers in strange bulbs
to pluck them out of savage soil
and count the corners quoins and levers
of the great machine

do not tell the greeks you know istanbul
they will not understand.
born in constantinople (unified silla)
i travelled to the romanised ruins
and cut my hand which found something to do
and did it mightily.
i was here before you know
and saw a pretty gal who smiled like this :)
and i became an anarchist (i like black black likes me)

half-eaten lowly leaves have one defense
poisonous to caterpillars and the weirder amongst us;
andrew loeb, a character (really) is one of those.
having acquainted myself with the architecture of love
i am certain i know you i have the blueprints
i know your secret doors that lead nowhere, i will open.

with you i read your eliot too,
with you i know the world was made
on some secluded island not too close by
the hand that pushed me into time
and stitched you back up when you laughed.
i like this hand and i like yours

o my pretty limb
your name is not charlotte



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I AM.

Bruce Facepuncher: Reflections on a Lifetime of Facepunching
shall sweep the awards.

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